Erik Nordlof is a long-time member of AG Bell, having been involved with the LOFT (Leadership Opportunities for Teens) and LEAP (Leadership, Education, and Advocacy Program) programs and serves as the web liaison for the College Leadership Committee. He was born hearing, but became profoundly deaf due to bacterial meningitis. Originally from Chicago, Illinois his parents decided to relocate to St. Louis so Erik could go to the Central Institute of the Deaf, where he attended until 1994. He went on to become mainstreamed in the local district, utilizing CART in his classes.
A CI user, Erik joined the Deaf Teen Club in high school and eventually became treasurer and president of the club. This served as his avenue in learning sign language from his peers, which provided him with the opportunity to communicate with members of Deaf Bilingual Coalition. Here is his story of that experience.
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For those who don't know, I attended the AG Bell convention in Milwaukee, and the Deaf Bilingual Coalition (DBC) set up its conference and protest near the convention center. DBC had its own conference at a nearby hotel, and they held a protest on the sidewalk opposite the convention center, posting a banner that said, "A.G. Bell, tear down this wall!"
I had heard about the protest last spring, and I was turning over its message in my head, trying to understand what their goal was. When I was at the convention, I was across the street watching the protest and taking a couple of pictures. A deaf protester on the sidewalk with me approached me and talked to me about AGB's negativist philosophy about suppressing sign language. I listened with my arms folded, and soon enough I began responding.
I know sign language, so I was able to communicate with the protester with ease. He painted me his perspective of AGB, and I responded that it seemed to be an overreaction. The organization's goal was oralism, and the topics it offered were based on that. It didn't dictate to parents of deaf children how they should raise their children. I disagreed with the notion that AGB took an active role in suppressing sign language, pointing to the various accommodations that the organization made. For example, there was a sign language interpreter and an oral interpreter at the opening ceremony, there were exhibit halls from RIT and Gallaudet, and there was no staff that was tapping on my shoulder and requesting for me to stop signing with some of my peers.
I emphasized individual choice and how parents are able to decide for themselves how to raise their deaf children. I said that AGB did not come into parents' homes and deny them sign language. Since this protester (and several others gathering) were curious about my sign language, I explained my background, having learned it from a deaf teen club during high school. I just chose to keep up with it since I genuinely enjoyed the language.
I debated with about seven different protesters, so some topics were repeated. Looking back, I can't recall what I talked about with whom. I'm trying to cover all the important points that I felt I made. Several of them brought up the history of oralism, and I acknowledged that it could have been more progressive. However, I directed the conversation to focus on the now, since things have changed.
A CI user, Erik joined the Deaf Teen Club in high school and eventually became treasurer and president of the club. This served as his avenue in learning sign language from his peers, which provided him with the opportunity to communicate with members of Deaf Bilingual Coalition. Here is his story of that experience.
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For those who don't know, I attended the AG Bell convention in Milwaukee, and the Deaf Bilingual Coalition (DBC) set up its conference and protest near the convention center. DBC had its own conference at a nearby hotel, and they held a protest on the sidewalk opposite the convention center, posting a banner that said, "A.G. Bell, tear down this wall!"
I had heard about the protest last spring, and I was turning over its message in my head, trying to understand what their goal was. When I was at the convention, I was across the street watching the protest and taking a couple of pictures. A deaf protester on the sidewalk with me approached me and talked to me about AGB's negativist philosophy about suppressing sign language. I listened with my arms folded, and soon enough I began responding.
I know sign language, so I was able to communicate with the protester with ease. He painted me his perspective of AGB, and I responded that it seemed to be an overreaction. The organization's goal was oralism, and the topics it offered were based on that. It didn't dictate to parents of deaf children how they should raise their children. I disagreed with the notion that AGB took an active role in suppressing sign language, pointing to the various accommodations that the organization made. For example, there was a sign language interpreter and an oral interpreter at the opening ceremony, there were exhibit halls from RIT and Gallaudet, and there was no staff that was tapping on my shoulder and requesting for me to stop signing with some of my peers.
I emphasized individual choice and how parents are able to decide for themselves how to raise their deaf children. I said that AGB did not come into parents' homes and deny them sign language. Since this protester (and several others gathering) were curious about my sign language, I explained my background, having learned it from a deaf teen club during high school. I just chose to keep up with it since I genuinely enjoyed the language.
I debated with about seven different protesters, so some topics were repeated. Looking back, I can't recall what I talked about with whom. I'm trying to cover all the important points that I felt I made. Several of them brought up the history of oralism, and I acknowledged that it could have been more progressive. However, I directed the conversation to focus on the now, since things have changed.
With the conversation in the now, the topic of parents came up. I repeated how AGB did not come into parents' homes and dictate how to communicate with their deaf children. A couple of protesters, including a hearing mother, thought that parents of deaf children were frightened and that AGB "preyed" on them. The mother called the parents "lemmings" for going to AGB (apparently, the mother was a former "lemming" who didn't take the plunge). Again, I emphasized that it was up for the parents to choose, and that parents are completely able to research the possibilities. AGB offers strategies related to oralism. At the time, I was not sure what kind of accessibility AGB provided parents to other methods, so I proposed a possible solution. I said that AGB was an organization with limited resources, and it was unrealistic to request for it to add new programs about other communication modes. At the time, I had proposed the possible solution of AGB listing the various modes of communication for parents and saying something like, "To learn more about sign language, you can visit the National Association for the Deaf's website." Afterward, I found out that AGB already provided such venues:
http://www.agbell.org/Desk
I don't know if I changed anyone's mind, but several protesters thanked me for giving them "access". I took this to mean that they were viewing AGB from the outside and may not have a true idea of what it was. Hopefully, being able to sign, and sharing my perspective as a member of AGB, shows some peple that it was not really the enemy DBC made it out to be.
My debate with the protesters ended partially because I was getting texted constantly (Valerie was retrieving my Blackberry from my waist and responding for me) and partially because apparently security was contacted. I had been surrounded by a LOT of people, and according to a friend of mine, a couple of staff members inside the center were worried about me. While I was slightly overwhelmed by the number of people and the cameras trained on me, I was still OK. Security moved the majority of the people back to the other side of the street, and I went to lunch with friends.
In retrospect, I think DBC did a terrible job of public relations. I don't think the sight of a protest is really attractive to any member of AGB. If anything, DBC has unnecessarily tried to make an opponent out of AGB, interpreting certain stances to believe that their language was being suppressed. I imagine that DBC needs to view AGB as intolerant so it serves as a driver for an organization, otherwise it cannot encourage its members into actions like protesting. I think it would be great if people could have a stronger understanding of ASL, but the protest seemed to have made DBC too adverse from the outside.
Debating with protesters was a little bit of a surreal experience. I haven't been caught up in anything like that, and it was different for me to take a sort of a middle ground (being bilingual) yet trying to discourage a combative mindset. From what I've read on a couple of blogs after the convention, some members are re-evaluating their perspective in terms of public relations and their own leadership. I wish them the best, as I think they could accomplish more by having a less aggressive approach.
- Erik

5 comments:
I totally agree that DBCcould gain more respect if they took a less aggressive approach. Last sprng some of the core members of DBC alpong with some Deaf militants protested at my CI child's oral school.It was so embarrassing to me as a deaf mother who uses ASL sometimes with my child and some of the kids atthe school who knew some signs. Some of the parents were taken aback by the protest (passing out flyers saying ASL for all Deaf babies).
I am for moderation and am an advocate for a combination of ASL or some sign language, AVT, cochlear implants, and most of all a strong self esteem in the deaf child.
Thank you for sharing your experience at DBC. A lot of us, ASL Deaf people are NOT like that!
Thanks for blogging about your experience at the rally.
The mindset of many seems to be old. I'm sure AGB was responsible for strong oralism views which also prohibited signs way back. Things are different now, which is pretty obvious. If any of them have issues and scars to deal with, then they need to get professional help, not go after AGB.
Candy~
Thank you for sharing your experience with us.
I think it all boils down to the anger from the "oral failures" of the past who feel they were deprived of access to their language. Also the anger of the Deaf of Deaf who are trying to protect deaf heritage and ASL (hence, the Deafhood movement). Also, I think perhaps you might be seeing this from an entirely different perspective because of where you are coming from.
When I was a student at CID many years ago, I did see that some of the kids didn't do very well in speech therapy and their classes even after HOURS and HOURS of hard work. I shudder when I think what if they got the opportunity to learn sign language at an earlier age? In those years, none of us signed in the classroom, the hallways or out in the playground. I do remember clearly how the teachers and the parents would tell us about the importance of speech therapy and how bad sign language was for oralism/deaf education (following AGBell's philosophy). The truth is it is difficult to pinpoint the real reason for the oral failures.... not enough involvement from parents in their education? Did deaf education improve in the 1980s and 1990s for deaf kids (CID's research projects did improve deaf education in their school over the years like their famed "Star Wars" program). Perhaps it was because the technology was not available back then like it is now (CIs? Digital hearing aids? What about computers and the media? Access to computers, the internet and captioned TV surely opened up the world for deaf kids of your generation -- more access to the written and spoken English language.) Maybe your perspective is different because the additional resources, tools and access to the English language that was available to you and your generation? Hopefully this is true that all of the kids you went to CID with are doing as well as you are. I do recall that someone told me that CID relaxed their rules about sign language and they allow the kids to sign in the hallways? Were there any kids in your age group that didn't do as well as you did? If so, do you think they would have done better if they learned sign language at an earlier age?
Back to the point...I have had my experiences at a AGBell conference and other times mingling with their members where I really felt uncomfortable signing in front of them because they did not approve of it. Maybe things have changed for your generation and they are more open to it now than they were back in the 1970s/1980s? I would love to believe that they have opened up their minds about it but it would be hard for me to believe because of my past experiences with them (the latest being AGBell's objection to Pepsi about their Superbowl commercial last January). It is kind of sad when I look back on those experiences I had when the teachers and parents at AGBell would give the kids using sign language "disapproving" looks. I know of several other former AGBell members (deaf) who had the same experiences I did. Most of the leaders and members at AGBell were hearing people which made me uncomfortable -- where is the voice of deaf people in that organization? That is why I understand where DBC is coming from. I am glad to hear that you haven't experienced it yourself. Maybe its because the times are different now than it was back then?? Or maybe its just different for your generation? Or maybe you need to open your eyes and take a really good look behind the facade of the AGBell conference to see what their true position is about sign language? Does it concern you that they don't believe in encouraging the parents and their kids to learn sign language in their AVT programs?
I think that what we are seeing in DBC's "protest" are the strong feelings in support of the deaf people who did not get to develop their language because of AGBell's oralism philosophy and stance against sign language. With the new AVT approach for children with CIs, it is disturbing because they don't believe in teaching sign language. It is also disturbing that they don't believe in teaching deaf kids how to lipread (what will they do if their CIs fail?). I think we all need to step back and try to look at this from all angles...
This is a very interesting angle to get from you. Hopefully this discussion will bring new angles to better understand where everybody is coming from and why there is so much confusion. There is so much diversity in the deaf community itself that I don't think we will ever be able to agree on anything!!
I hope that your blog will open our eyes to see all angles of this.
Again thank you for blogging to share your experience at the AGBell conference with us!
I think it is difficult to measure success, so it is hard to say if the lack of success is faulted to deaf education or regular education. People, not just deaf people, have different skills and aspirations. I cannot accurately judge from my personal experience what helped my deaf peers succeed and what did not help.
CID was an oral environment for me as well. I think that my earliest and most significant exposure to sign language was in elementary school, when people met at my friend's house to have some lessons. I recall coming away knowing basic signs like "shower". I was interested in learning more, but there was not really a venue until I encountered the Deaf Teen Club in high school.
My experience with AGB has been oral, too. Everyone talked, so I talked. I imagine at Deaf organizations' meetings, everyone signs. :) Maybe it's something about majority rule that leads to homogeneous communication. I'm not going to pretend that all oral deaf people are perfectly accepting of sign language. They could look at it negatively because of the myth that it harms oralism, because of how oralism has been rallied against by Deaf people, or because it's different for them. (People do not always like elements out of their control.) I don't have any negative experiences in using sign within view of oral deaf people; if I ever got weird looks, I probably shrugged them off. I think it's vital to have confidence in the way you conduct yourself; if people cannot deal with that, it is their loss. Some oral deaf people have said they've tried to sign with signing deaf people, but they are shunned for being unskilled. I'm not that skilled myself, but I haven't had any negative experiences like that. I think that I am able to conduct myself very assertively to challenge any hesitation on the other person's part. If that makes sense.
In response to the PepsiCo commercial, that was a topic I forgot to address when I wrote about my experience. I made the point that PepsiCo was using diversity as a marketing tool to sell soda to people. Basically, they used the uniquely silent world of deaf people in the commercial to capture audiences so they could sell their product and make money. In a way, that's why I did not agree with AGB's letter. Such a 60-second commercial with oral deaf people with hearing aids and cochlear implants talking about the Super Bowl party or Pepsi would not have worked. It would not have been as profitable of a venue for PepsiCo.
However... I do understand the point that was trying to be made in AGB's letter. While the TV spot was part of PepsiCo's commercial enterprise, such marketing and advertising can be related to cultural expression. I cannot accurately say what the general public's perspective of deaf people is, but I think it's fair to say that sign language is more visible than oralism (or even other modes of deaf communication). The commercial, in the cultural sense, possibly depicts deaf people as seen by the general public, or at least projects that depiction to the general public. While this is not "bad", it is a limited depiction. It does not explore the variety of deaf people that can coexist. AGB, as an organization that presents oralism, obviously would like to show that available mode of communication in the national spotlight. That's my disagreement: It's not possible to explore this variety in a TV commercial, and I never believed that PepsiCo was going to follow right up with a commercial involving oral deaf people.
I honestly cannot speak about AVT as I do not know enough about it. If I ever become a deaf parent, I will certainly weigh all the options. I do know that the real world does not always use sign language or visual cues, so maybe the therapy addresses that. I can't say for sure. It just seems that the absence of sign language in AVT is interpreted to mean that they said, "Sign language is yucky; let's suppress it." If it encompassed sign language, it wouldn't be called AVT. :)
I think that tolerance exists, and the difficulty is in how communication in organizations have become homogeneous. If you only know how to talk, you would feel out of your element trying to sign. If you only know how to sign, you would feel out of your element trying to talk. If you think about it, people stay inside their circle of comfort for various aspects of their lives. I don't think that the divide can be closed on the organizational level; the separate modes of communication is deeply entrenched in the people themselves. I think that the divide is closing, but I think there are factors that still stand in our way on a lower level. For me, a major factor seems to be location. There are not many deaf people, and I have oral deaf friends who are interested in sign but cannot use it often enough to communicate usefully. It's a big hearing world out there, and reach to each other can be a little far.
Erik -
Thank you for sharing your experience.
It is sad that some people continue to choose to live in the past.
Hope you discussion continues to have an impact. :)
Lynn
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